Saturday, June 26, 2010

So what is a modular kitchen? .... and some best practices

I recently came across a customer who was told by his "designer" (more carpenter) that the kitchen he has made for the customer is Modular because ... "see it has these steel baskets and I will also put in a magic corner". Ha, haa I thought, this needs some explanation, why don't I use this topic as my first post in the blog. So here goes....aaaum ganeshaya namah...

With so many scrupulous and un-scrupulous designers, carpenters, interior-walas selling what they call "modular kitchens" these days it is good as a customer to know what exactly is a "Modular Kitchen".

So here it is....

1. As the name suggests a "Modular" Kitchen consists of modules that are assembled together. Each module consisting of the Carcass (box) and the shutter is independent and can be taken in and out of the full unit separately. This also helps in repair work when the kitchen ages as for example, you can completely replace the wet unit (unit under the washbasin) if it spoils after some years of use without disrupting the rest of the kitchen.

2.  The Carcass in a Modular kitchen rests on 3-4 inch legs, typically 4 legs under each module. It does not rest on a wooden plank. The legs are hidden behind a PVC (not wood) skirting. The legs & the PVC skirting help because (a) As mentioned in point 1 earlier the unit/ module can be independently moved in & out and (2) the wood does not touch the ground, hence no chances of any damage caused by water, mop etc.

3. Height is usually more than the normal kitchen. Most designers (Carpenters) would keep the height as 32 inches and this is usually what the builder also gives. However typical Modular Kitchens will have a height around 36 inches.It is good to keep this height because (1) We Indian women are nowadays taller than in the past :-) and therefore it is more convenient to work on a higher slab and (2) If you want to fit a dishwhasher under the slab it will not fit in 32 inches and (3) A higher height gives you more storage space underneath.

4. While steel baskets and accessories in the drawers etc. are good, they nowadays cost the same as soft closing drawers & by that I mean the same price as Hettich Innotech drawers (http://www.hettich.com/uk/carpenter/1109.php) which are considered as amongst the best drawer systems in the world. The choice is however left to the individual.

I guess thats it. I am sure this will give one enough gyan to "sound" intelligent and knowledgable to your designer/ carpenter so that he does not take you for a ride.

Happy home making

NM

120 comments:

  1. Hi Nandita,

    Your blog has detailed information. I appreciate your statement on knowledge sharing. I got my wood work done at elita, you should have advertased about your blog long back.

    Rgds
    Nagaraja

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  2. Hi Nandita,
    Thankyou for such in-depth information on various facets of 'home-designing'. In the context of legs for carcass of a modular kitchen, I would like to know whether PVC legs (the adjustable ones) are as, if not more, durable than the s.steel (non-adjustable) ones.
    Thanks & regards,
    Shobha

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  3. Shobha,
    Better to go for non adjustable legs, both PVC or steel shud be fine.
    Adjustable are not recommended as carcass alignment is a one time activity.

    Regards
    NM

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  4. Hi Nandita, thank u very much for the tips. I am getting a kitchen done through a carpenter. As far as the pullouts/kitchen baskets are concerned, can you recommend few more good quality brands except blum /hettich or hafele as they are beyond our budget :(
    I have gone though websites of KAFE, evershine, sleek. but i am really confused. thanks once again

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  5. Dath,
    Have found Evershine to be good...they have also coe up with Evershine Next which is lower grade (not unacceptable) & cheaper.

    You can also try Cucina - Local Bangalore brand and open to some negotiation :)

    Rgds
    NM

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  6. Hi Nandita,

    i ordered a kitchen basket cabinet in SS. But my carpenter advised me to go for PVC basket units . Which one is best for cutleries item? can i expect a suggestion?

    swarna

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  7. Swarna,
    Best is to go in for a Blum or Hettich basket of the type (http://www.attiwillsonline.com.au/013320/INNOTECH-CUTLERY-TRAY-SILVER-1000D520/pd.php).
    If you have a cost constraint then go in for the PVC option.
    SS Wire baskets face issues of the cutlery slipping out of them, while SS sheet baskets can rust.

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  8. hi Nandita we have white kitchen and as you mentioned about the PVC skirting .Will it be available in white in bangalore. The one that has been put for us is black PVC

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  9. Pooja - not sure about white, however silver is available in all large hardware shops....it goes with most kitchen colours.

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  10. Hi Nandita,
    Lovely blog I must say. I am doing some research for my kitchen and contacting many interior designers like Nolte, interwood, aishwarya, karighars Ambiente, veneta cucine.... please can you suggest which is doing good work and are working as professionals or also tell me other one you have in mind. thanks a lot :)

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  11. Well...for the record I myself undertake interior projects on a turnkey basis :). You can reach me at nanditamanwani@gmail.com


    Rgds
    NM

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  12. Hello Nandita,

    Have just gone thru' your blogs n its really a great work i must say. can you pls suggest on home interiors, we just purchased a 3bhk duplex apartment. from where do we start for interiors

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    1. Start by identifying a good interior designer :)

      NM

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  13. Hi Nandita,

    Good peice of information, thanks.

    I am in the process of making a modular kitchen for my new home. Our carpenter suggests PU lacquer finish paint for the shutters and I did like the sample peice he had got.
    Do you recommend the same?

    thanks
    Rashmi

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    1. Ok if the shutters are ready made/ factory made...if you are planning to polish these on site then make sure you have a very good polisher, else you may end up with a shoddy piece of work.
      Also know that Lacquer will develop scratches in the long run, hence good maintenance will be required

      NM

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  14. Thanks Nandita.

    What is best for the shutters?
    MDF with membrane, ply with laminate, ply with polymer finish OR MDF with wood finish PU lacquer paint?
    I am looking for slight glossy finish (something like italian kitchen) and durable.

    thanks
    Rashmi

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    1. Your answer is here http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      Also go through the comments and their answers

      Rgds
      NM

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  15. Hi Nandita

    Appreciate your effort to educate customers.

    We are looking for a suitable modular kitchen manufacturer/Dealer in New Delhi. I've the following queries:

    1. Do you offer services in Delhi as well..??

    2. We have zeroed in on the option of Powder coated Galvanized Mild Steel(offered only by a few I guess) for the module carcass, Your thoughts on the same.

    3. Suitable material for shutter doors: MDF vs Marine Ply vs Powder coated MS..??

    Warm Regards

    Sushant

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    1. Sushant,
      I dont have operations in Delhi. Also have not worked with Steel for kitchens...hence cannot really comment.
      Sorry that I cannot be of help

      Rgds
      NM

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  16. Hi Nandita,

    Good peice of information, thanks.

    I am in the process of making a modular kitchen for my new home. I have reviewed different options available for shutters. what i have a doubt is, whether it is possible to have a membrne finish on a marine ply doors, or they are only done on MDF. and the option i am left with while going for marine ply is a laminate.

    please let me know what are the options of finish that are available with marine ply.

    thanks,
    Kulbhushan.

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    1. Your answer is here http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      Also go through the comments and their answers

      Regards

      NM

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  17. Your email doesnt work. Please give your correct id so that i can contact withmy home plan :-)

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    1. I have been receiving regular communication on my email - nanditamanwani@gmail.com. Are you getting a bounce back or something else? Please try again. You should get a response from me in less than 24 hours.

      Regards

      Nandita

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  18. Hi,

    Thank you for informative post/blog.

    I am trying to get interior done for my 2BHK flat and got below response from carpenter.

    1. He will use waterproof pinewood in entire kitchen [waterproof greenply pinewood brand]. Is this brand recommended? Can you suggest any other brand in medium category? Does this brand comes under low/medium category?

    2. Uses commercial quality 19mm pinewood everywhere else. Will it be ok? What to look for in this wood? any particular brand or other? I hear people saying it ranges from 35rs to bigger amount. Do you recommend any particular pinewood in medium range?

    3. He will use decalum, not sure whether its the right word, on top of wood. Will it last long or look good? Can you tell me what to look for in this? does thickness matter? 0.8mm vs 1mm? Does decalum means 'Laminate' in your post.

    4. Does decalum needs to be replaced to be anything to get the nice finish? If yes, can you suggest it and pros/cons of it wit this?

    Thanks
    Naren

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    1. 1) Please go through the other posts on this blog especially http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html
      Also browse through the earlier comments and Q&A's - most of your questions will be answered there.

      2) Visit your closest Ply & Veneer shop and check out the brands of wood available and the prices - the type of wood that you need for different applications is already on the post I mentioned above - more details are at http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2012/08/types-of-wood-wood-specifications-for.html
      3) If you get any 19mm ply at Rs 35 per square feet - DONT BUY IT - decent quality ply in Bangalore starts at around Rs 65 psft and goes upto Rs 110 psft. Any brand in this range is ok provided it conforms to the specifications mentioned in the post I pointed to in point #2 above.

      4) I haven't heard of anything called Decalum

      NM

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  19. Hi,

    Thanks for useful blog.
    I wanted to know the preferred brand for buying kitchen baskets out of below?

    1. Kedium
    2. In N out
    3. Jaguar
    4. Heritage
    5. King

    I can't afford hetich, so thought to check with you the best brand out of above. I guess all are Stainless Steel baskets. Thank you once again.

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    1. Any brand is ok for the kitchen baskets - what is important is that it should be AISI 304 Grade steel.

      NM

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  20. Hi Nandita...

    are sleek modular accessories good?

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    1. Yes Sleek is a reputed brand in Kitchen Accessories. I believe they have SS accessories in different grades - Ensure that you buy 304 grade.


      NM

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  21. Hi Nandita,

    Your blog is very informative. Thank you for such wonderful tips. You said at the top that Hettich Innotech drawers are the same price as the steel basket ones. Can you provide a breakdown how it is same? I called up the Hettich show room. They said Innotech costs for a set of channels and slides starts from Rs.3000. For this we need to add the additional costs of plywood that should be provided for bottom, behind and front of the carcass. Additionally, I would need to buy PVC partitions to place in these carcass. I feel the price goes up much more compared to SS baskets. I enquired SS baskets in hettich, it starts from Rs.2500, the channels and the slides for it starts from Rs.500. Additionally, it would not require plywood for bottom and behind. Don't you think Innotech costs way above than SS baskets? Please let me know if I am making sense? If you could provide a breakdown of cost for both, it would be great.

    regards,
    Yogi

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    1. Yes Hettich Innotech Soft Closing drawers will be some Rs 500 - 700 higher than Mid end SS Baskets. But the quality & finish of Innotech is far superior plus the flexibility to design the drawers of any size is worth the extra.

      Rgds
      NM

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  22. hi,i want to know post forming shutter is good for kitchen

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    1. For the answer please refer to the comments section of the post below - you will also get additional insight

      http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      Regards
      NM

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  23. Impressed by your Blog,All in one Home Design.
    Thanks for the quality time spent on giving clear-cut information. also for your "mini-research" on products.
    Your blog serves the purpose.
    Thanks for the selective links
    Got a better understanding on Home Design,esply, kitchen design.
    Kindly including a "Star Rating" system for the products you recommend [ Rating on Quality and Cost ]

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  24. Hi Nandita,

    Your blog is simply awesome.. I stay in Gurgaon and when we wanted to make a good wardrobe, I picked up tips from your bloh which were very useful and now we want to get a modular kitchen done and now I have changed all specs offered by my carpenter....

    Just wanted to bounce off whether i am on track

    I am using a IS 303 BWR or IS 1659 grade Marine Ply/ Block Board...understand block board is 25 % odd cheaper and probably still Boiling water proof

    Using MDF membrane as shutter

    Will use SS baskets of 304 grade steel -branded / unbranded

    Ensuring legs hidden behind PVC skirting

    Using 19mm block board ( IS 1659 BWR) for crockery and wall units in kitchen

    Also, if you can guide optimal no of drawers etc for a typical kitchen in 2 BHK apartment

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    1. Choice of material seems fine. The kitchen layout, number of drawers etc. is decided based on ones lifestyle.
      Hettich has a good Kitchen Design & Layout Guide that you can refer for basic guidance http://www.hettich.com/intelligentkitchens/index_en.html

      Rgds
      NM

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  25. Hi Nandita,

    What should be the minimum thickness of kitchen countertop in modular kitchen. Is 12 mm thick engineered stone countertop, supported on a ply, strong enough. Is there any disadvantage of having plywood support for the countertop. If so, what should be the minimum thickness of kitchen countertop if there is no plywood support i.e. its installed directly on top of carcases.

    Thanks in advance for your response.

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    1. Wooden support is necessary. Stone thickness should ideally be above 17 mm

      Rgds
      NM

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  26. Hi Nandita,

    My countertop granite is 40 mm thickness. I am going to use BWR Waterproof marine ply for carcass. Will it carry the weight of the 40mm granite countertop

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  27. Hi Nandita,

    My builder says. For the kitchen he is giving 4 inches thick cement slab from the floor of kitchen.
    If we have a counter height of 36 inches for the modular kitchen, its going to be 40 inches. Is it not too tall?
    Or should we avoid the cement slab? Please suggest.

    thanks

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    1. If its possible then remove the cement base. If not then (though this is not recommended) the box can rest on the cement base (no legs).
      You may also want to go through http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2011/08/home-design-vaastu-shastra-episode-2.html

      NM

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  28. Hello Nandita,

    I have found your blog and articles to be of great help while doing my modular kitchen, so thanks a lot.

    What is your opinion of ENOX brand of kitchen accessories and would you recommend them? I am planning to get a soft closing magic corner from them as the same in Hettich/Hafele is very expensive. Have you used ENOX before in any of your projects?

    Also what brand of kitchen chimneys would you recommend among Kaff, Faber, Falmec? Is Carysil any good?

    Thanks
    Vikky.

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    1. Enox is a good brand - go ahead with it if it matches your needs.
      I have used Kaff & Faber - both are fine. Its important to look for after sales network & support when choosing a chimney/hob.

      NM

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  29. Apart from Hettich soft drawer system, which other brands are available for soft drawers?

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    1. Hafele & Ebco have soft closing systems as well. There are also some niche players in the market linked to specific dealers/ importers

      Regards
      NM

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  30. Hi Nandita : I'M finalizing between 2 vendors for modular kitchen and have 2 questions (i'm from Gurgaon)

    1). One of the modular kitchen designer is suggesting INOX vs hettich owing to 50% cost differential. is Inox any good and durable or should i stick to Hettich? And is the cost differential big enough (I will be getting the following fitted : Pantry, cutlery, multipurpose, grain, dustbin, detergent holder baskets etc, standard accessories for a 12 feet*7 feet parallel kitchen.

    2) While I have read your article on what materials should one choose : is additional 40k worth spending on 18 mm century ply wood with merino laminate recommended by one vendor vs what EVOK is recommending ie Particle wood with laminate

    Thanks, Vanya (Vanya.sawhney@gmail.com; Gurgaon)

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    1. If you are being offered a 40% cost differential with Inox then go with it - just ensure that its 304 grade steel

      Yes 40K extra is worth spending for BWR ply carcass against a particle board carcass

      Rgds
      NM

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  31. Hi Nandita,
    Hope you are doing fine.
    We are looking for an innovative design for our new home's crockery unit. We want to fix it over wall and hence dont want it to be standing over legs. I tried searching a lot over internet but they all are more or less same. Even I serach houzz and Ikea but no luck. Can you help me in giving pointers where can I find it ? The idea is to have a eye catching design with storage and elegance.

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    1. Wall mounting a crockery unit might be risky as crockery is extremely heavy. You may have already searched these, if you haven't you may want to try www.fabfurnish.com, www.kingschest.com or www.urbanladder.com

      Regards
      Nandita

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  32. Hi Nandita,
    we looking for modular kitchen in hyderabad , we seen four type kitchen
    in modular kitchen manufacture----
    1. carcass/shutters----
    A-plywood with laminated----------------710 ply wood ,.8mm laminated -25 years warrnty
    B- Mdf with mamberan-------prelaminated /MDF/PLYwith mdf mamberan shutter's ----25 years
    C-Blow plathfom S.S pole system /shutter's as we like material
    D-Pvc kitchen -carcass pvc ply sheet /shutter's pvc decopaint or pvc laminated --long life warrnty -
    now we seen now product in market solid pvc ply sheet or isit matiness free for 100% water proof ,no trimet ,fire prof
    finly we have two option PVC or PLYWOOD
    plz give ur valuable suggestion

    thx
    mahesh
    vanaammahesh@yahoomail.com

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    1. My personal preference is for ply wood, also I have not used PVC yet hence cannot comment on its durability

      Rgds
      NM

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  33. I'm concerned about the formaldehyde emissions of engineered wood plywood(marine), MDF, etc. Centuryply website lists emission levels for formaldehyde: http://www.centuryply.com/products/laminated-plywood

    I'm a bit confused about whether I should go with the above or opt for steel/metal kitchen. Do you think the emission levels matter or should I be concerned about furniture made of these materials?

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    1. I personally don't think that plywood emissions matter, however that is an individual opinion and others may beg to differ.
      There are formaldehyde free plywood options available in the market as well.

      Rgds
      NM

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  34. Hi Nandita,
    Thanks for providing useful information.Can you please clarify the below queries.
    For modular kitchen am in dilemma whether to use rubberwood or ply wood (Mica pasted) .Please suggest.
    My carpenter suggesting me to go for plywood.But my friends are suggesting that it is not for long lasting.

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    1. I believe your question is regarding the shutters. Both Rubberwood & Plywood should be fine. The decision should be based on the design & finish that appeals to you as each has its unique look and feel

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      NM

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  35. Hi Nandita,

    I have read your blogs and I must say you are doing good in helping the community.
    I've few questions related to kitchen:-
    (1) I've asked my builder to get a floor rise of 4" in the kitchen which he has already done.
    I did so because I thought that my wood would not be touched every time by a mop increasing the life of wood. So, now the modular kitchen will rest on it and not on the legs. Have i made a good/bad decision or it does not matter because there will be PVC skirting.

    (2) Regarding chimney, I've heard that Elica has some silent chimney's where the motor is outside the house. Is it really worth? How much does this cost (approx.)? How much should be the suction?

    Regards,
    Rahul

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    1. Rahul,
      1) Ideally the kitchen should rest on legs and there should be no floor rise. If the boxes are kept on the floor rise then dirt & cockroaches accumulate in the tiny spaces between the floor rise & the box.

      2) The silent chimneys "are" really silent. For Non Veg Cooking the suction capacity should be above 950cum/hr.

      Rgds
      NM

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  36. Dear Nandita

    I am from Chennai. I am in the process of renovating my kitchen. My interior designer is currently designing the layout / plans etc. I wish to use either BLUM-Hefele (Tandem Box) or HETTICH (Innotech) for all the drawers (15 nos) in my kitchen. Which one do you personally recommend?

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    1. Both Blum and Hettich are fine...decide based on the price & the one that visually appeals more to you.

      Rgds
      NM

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  37. I think the factory made modular kitchen joints are star screw joints and they start slacking after a year or so. Nobody talks about the joints though. Whereas carpenters work usually has nail joints which never break.
    I have seen the slacking even in the demo kitchens and when asked nobody wants to talk/explain about it.

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    1. Manu, If the Modular Kitchen is constructed properly and by someone who knows his job then no such issues happen.

      Rgds
      NM

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  38. Hi Nandita,

    Nice blog. I am from hyderabad and I have a couple of questions.
    1) Which is better factory made modular kitchen or carpenter made.
    2) Should we go with the granite slab provided by builder or have it made ourselves? I spoke to a designer and he said if the slab is provided by the builder, then he will have to work with some constraints since the RCC is already built. But if it is not there then he can design it in a better manner. Please let me know which is better because I have to inform the builder if we need it or not.
    3) Do you take up designing in hyderabad as well or will it be possible to recommend anybody you know from hyderabad?

    Thanks a ton,
    Harini

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    1. Carpenter made kitchens are usually not "Modular" unless the carpenter knows or is guided about Modular construction.
      Also refer http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2011/08/home-design-vaastu-shastra-episode-2.html for your other queries

      Rgds
      NM

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    2. Hi Nandita,

      Thanks a lot for your reply :) Actually I did not mean getting the work done by a carpenter. My question was which is a better option installing a factory made woodwork or employing a interior designer who has some workers under him and they come home and work on the woodwork because some people suggest that factory made have better finish but some say factory made will not last long and will not be as strong as the ones being made at home. So I am really confused. Kindly let me know your opinion.

      Thanks a ton,
      Harini

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    3. The finish of factory made stuff is usually more slick, that said not all designs can be made in the factory and these need an onsite carpenter. Most good designers would do both i.e. get some stuff made in the factory and do the rest onsite.

      The impression that factory made does not last is because sometimes the right material is not used to make the stuff and there is little control/ knowledge that the end customer has of the material being used.

      Rgds
      NM

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  39. Hi Nandita: Thank you for answering my previous question

    Now want your help/view in deciding which option should I go for in-terms of practicality, ease of use and functionality (the costing and weight bearing is the same on both the options below)

    Option 1: Kaff Pantry Tall Unit – KD 305 with 10 shelves
    Option 2: Regular Tall cabinet with individual 5 Hettich pull out drawers

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    1. Vanya,
      That depends on the usage & your lifestyle/ needs

      Rgds
      Nandita

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  40. I have one question, is the soft drawers from Hettich or Hafele is just channels or does it have the side and front material (wood or metal) also included?
    In pictures, on their websites, it looks full drawer will be a unit.

    Also, in that case shutters are required only for cabinets not for drawers, is this correct assumption?

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    1. The front, bottom and the back of soft closing drawers need to be made, that also gives flexibility to make the drawer in any size. Nowadays some companies have also come out with full sets albeit in standard sizes.

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      NM

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  41. Hi Nandita,

    I want to know whether we should use EBCO Plinth Fitting - Oval Base. it is Height adjustment legs with screw. is it safe to sue Height adjustment legs with screw for kitchen? Also the skirting is removable or not? could you please suggest?

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    1. Yes it is fine to use adjustable height legs. The skirting is fixed to the legs with clips and is removable

      Rgds
      NM

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    2. Thanks Nandita. But in your previous post you had mentioned that it is not good to use height adjustable legs, so wondering that is it good to use or not?

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    3. The question is whether to use adjustable legs and whether it is safe - the Answer is Yes it is fine to use them.

      If the question is whether one NEEDS to use adjustable legs - the answer is - in most cases it is not needed to do any adjustment (unless the flooring is uneven) and any minor adjustment needed can be done by giving a packing under the legs.

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      NM

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  42. Hi Nandita- not related to this post but didnt know where to ask the question. For a wooden bookcase, what are the best hinges to use? My carpenter was telling me to put piano hinges but they seem quite flimsy.
    Rgds,
    Sunil

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    1. The choice of the hinge is based on the design.
      Also - piano hinges may look flimsy but they work fine once they are fixed.

      Rgds
      NM

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  43. Hi Nandita, how are these 'Lifetime' brand of kitchen accessories. My carpenter suggested that they are durable and come with a lifetime warranty. They are 100% stainless steel. http://www.lifetimewireproducts.com/ . any comments?

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  44. Hi Nandita,

    Its a wonderful blog you have here. We have bought a new flat on hosur road and now in the process of doing interiors. Just have few questions. Please do address them when u have time.

    1. Builder has provided us with black granite. Will cherry red and white kitchen look nice with black countertop ???

    2. Also i wanted silver color skirting with my red & white kitchen. My interior guy is saying that PVC skirting is not available in silver color so he will give me silver skirting in laminate. Is laminate skirting durable ???

    3. Kindly suggest some place where i can find wall mounting pooja units in bangalore.

    Thanks in Advance..

    Arvind

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    1. Colours need to be decided based on the overall theme - including tile colours etc.
      Silver colour PVC skirting is available, if you are not getting it then laminate is fine as the next option (PVC is water resistant, laminate is not)

      Pooja units are available in most ready-made furniture shops

      Rgds
      NM

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  45. Hi, I am planning to Get my kitchen done. Have read so many complaints about modular kitchen, such as delayed delivery, hinges coming off, and so on that I am confused. Also, how is oren kitchen world. Please advise?

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    1. If one uses the right material and workmanship there are no such issues with Modular kitchens...please also go through other Q&A above where this has been discussed before.
      I cannot comment on delayed delivery as this is a vendor specific issue

      Rgds
      NM

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  46. Hi Nandita,

    There is an australian brand Grass for drawers/accessories. Would you recommend it. Also the guy at the hardware store told me that Hettich does not have some components like Grain Trolley and Bottle Rack Pullout in 304 grade stainless steel but has it in a 202 grade. Is that ok to purchase or is the 304 grade in Evershine a better buy. Please advise.

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    1. Grass is fine, however I am not sure of their after sales support in case of any issues, that said its rare that one needs any after sales support for standard stuff.
      Evershine is fine to use for wire based accessories

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  47. Hi Nandita,

    Have you heard about Stainless Steel modular kitchens? i found some links and would like to know pro's and con's of SS kitchens. Can you shed some light on this and let me know if we can you SS kitchens for indian cooking style?

    Thanks and Regards,
    Anil

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    1. Your question is already answered in the Q&A/ Comments above...kindly browse through

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  48. Hi Nandita

    I am from Bangalore . Recently I need to do interior work for my 2-BHK flat.

    I got the the following quotation from one of local carpenter.

    can u please send your feed back on the same regarding the deal & quality of material he is using.

    whether the mention cost is fair and genuine ?

    Quotation with materials
    SI.No
    Particulars
    SFT
    Rate
    Amount
    1.
    Cupboard -7’0”x7’0”-1nos
    49.00
    825.00
    40425.00
    2.
    Lopt -2’6”x13’0”-1nos
    32.50
    500.00
    16250.00

    Lopt -2’6”x10’0”-1nos
    25.00
    500.00
    12500.00

    Lopt -2’6”x3’0”-1nos
    7.500
    500.00
    3750.00

    Kitchen bottom -2’6”x16’3”-1nos
    40.63
    1025.00
    41645.00

    Kitchen top-2’6”x13’3”-1nos
    33.13
    1025.00
    33958.00

    Corckary box-7’0”x8’0”-1nos
    56.00
    900.00
    50400.00

    Tv showcase -7’0’x7’0”-1nos
    49.00
    700.00
    34300.00

    Bed -7’0”x6’0”-1nos
    42.00
    Lamsam
    20000.00

    Arch -1’6”x24’0”-1nos
    36.00

    15000.00
























    TOTAL
    2,68,228.00

    Note:
    · All plywood brand national,mayor,arachit water proof kitchen & 100%commercial pine wood-deka,gally
    · Inside laminate white/ half white
    · Front door laminate price range 1000 to 1800
    · Basket/inches/ telescope channel brand
    Basket-unitech-1set-(1x3),kitchen-highgallocy&pvcpati finishing
    · Extra work extra charge

    Thanks & Regards

    Krupa Babu

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    1. Babu, being in the same line of work I refrain from commenting on quotes of other vendors

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  49. hello Nandita,

    Thank you for such an informative blog. In modular kitchens
    - how are each boxes connected? is nailing best way or using connector screws?
    - also the countertop has to be metal pasted on the top layer of ply boxes?
    - is it recommended to use an extra layer of ply between box and countertop?
    - all these boxes dont move by just connecting each other n using pvc legs to raise them or any recommended methods?

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    1. The boxes are connected with connector screws
      There is an extra layer of ply between the counter top and the boxes...for multiple reasons, the simplest being that otherwise you cannot broaden the edges of the counter
      Once you lay the counter on the connected boxes you will need an earthquake to move it :)...else its set for life
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    2. Thank you, makes sense :)

      So no need to metal paste the top ply and counter? how to ensure water doesnt seep in?

      Another question is for bangalore weather, is it advisable to make box frames for lofts or leave the sides and top open to the wall (doors to close the front)?

      Thank you!

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    3. "Laying" the counter INCLUDES sticking it to the ply with metal paste - sorry if that was not clear in my earlier comment.
      Lofts on frames are fine

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  50. I am looking to do interiors in my apartment at chennai. Do you have resources you work with at Chennai?

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    1. I am currently restricted to Bangalore

      Regards
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    2. Hi,
      Very informative blog, and a good brief on Modular Kitchen. Regarding Modular Kitchen , I have 2 queries :
      1. How is the width of the modules / each unit decided? Is it a multiple of the narrowest cabinet like Vertical Pullout? So that it can help change layouts?
      2. Unlike regular kitchen cabinets where each unit is separated by a ply (19 thk) , in modular kitchen each module is a complete box and the boxes are attached to each other. Don't you think each wall will be double thick (in case of 19 thk) wasting space and adding cost?
      Thanks & Regards,
      Vinod

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    3. 1. The width of the module is customizable as per the design. However if you are buying an imported modular kitchen then each foreign brand has its own standard sizes
      2. Yes - that's the reason why modular kitchens are a little expensive, however having each unit as a separate component helps to remove individual units if needed in the long run. If one is making the kitchen boxes on site then you can have the wet portion modular and the rest non modular...I would call this having a Modular Finish but NOT truly Modular
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  51. Hi Nandita,

    I am stating work on my new kitchen in Bangalore, I have most details sorted out (thanks a lot for your informative posts), but for the carcass legs.
    Hettich says they don't have the legs available in Bangalore!; Hafele is very pricey (costing thousands each!); These legs are available @ Gilma at reasonable cost, are they good enough? Are there any other brands that are good for this?

    Thanks & Regards,
    Rashmi

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    1. You don't need expensive legs, you can get each leg within Rs 100 from your local hardware shop - ask for PVC legs for modular kitchen.
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  52. Hi Nanditha,

    This blog is really good informative. I have few queries.
    1. Any brand SS with grade 304 is Ok for kitchen? They mention life time warranty, will they really mean it?
    2. What would be the price of hettich brand for 6 baskets (cutlery, bottle pullout, thali, plain, plate etc)
    2. Factory made cabinets are not true modular kitchens as you mentioned in the comment "January 18, 2014 at 12:27 PM"? because i see they have only one wall between adjacent cabinet.

    Thanks in advance.

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    1. 1. 304 Grade will not spoil - hence you will never need the warranty
      2. Prices vary depending on where you buy
      3. A truly modular kitchen should have each unit as independent - hence double walls in between cabinets are obvious - one can question the functionality and the cost benefit of the same but if someone is selling you a Kitchen that cannot be dis-assembled piece by piece then he is not selling you a truly "Modular" Kitchen - as a customer one should be aware of this.

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  53. Hi Nandita,

    What is meant by SS ? or instance 304 Grade ? My carpenter gave me the specifications including these terms! Can you please help us understand as to on what details we need to be aware of and cross check with them in order to understand and not get fooled ?

    Also, I am getting the kitchen done entirely by BWR with laminate. Any other combination that you suggest which would be better ?

    What I would to mention if I want my carpenter to make provisions for light fittings at the cabinets ( near the skirting ) underneath the slab ? Any challenges you foresee to have this idea implemented ?

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    1. SS = Stainless Steel. 304 is the grade of steel as per the International Standards Organization.
      To avoid being taken for a ride go with a branded range of Kitchen Baskets. Also know that if your carpenter wants to cheat then he fill find his ways of doing so :).

      For material recommendation visit http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html.

      Lights near the skirting are very much possible - check out http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LhKuR_g1PcQ/UqQlxWCb2NI/AAAAAAAAAd8/UzdP9-aGF08/s400/DSC_0321.JPG

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  54. hi nandita, hw mch space is reqd for a corner unit to accomodate magic units/dee trays? we have a corner cabinet of 3ft long and 2 ft wide with a 14 inch door. will anything fit in? or shd we leave it a sit is?pls advise as to hw can i utilise to the best?

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    1. A Magic Corner will need a min door width of 400mm. The Kitchen needs to be designed based on the constraints of the accessories you want to accommodate.
      I cannot comment wisely on the options without a view of the overall design and changes (if any) that can be made at this stage.

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  55. HI Nandita, Can u suggest if Evershine Shutter or Indoline Shutters are good. I am getting good colors

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    1. Both Evershine & Indoline are fine - there isn't much difference between the two in terms of quality.
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  56. Hi Nandita,

    Such a wonderful resource your blog is. Thanks so much.

    Just like you have done a ball park estimate for interiors (800 per sq.ft), do you have a ball park estimate for modular kitchen? I have a kitchen approximately 10ft. in length and need to have cupboards on both sides that are running the length. I have some quotes from a couple of people, but just wanted to know if they are in the right ballpark.

    I understand it is difficult to estimate without details, but would appreciate your help - if you could provide a ballpark just like you did for overall interiors of a house.

    Thanks a lot,
    Bharath

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    1. Thanks Bharath.
      Its difficult to do a ballpark for the kitchen as there is a wide variety of accessories etc. available in the market at different price points. That said, a kitchen - L shaped, 10X8 feet in size, modular & factory made, using decent quality material and accessories would typically start from a price point of approx 2.5 lac.

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  57. Hi Nandita,
    Just wanted to check on the utility difference between a magic corner and a d tray.....is it worthwhile to invest in a magic corner...

    Tks,
    Ann

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    1. Both D Tray & Magic corners have limited storage, however a Magic Corner is preferable over a D Tray

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  58. Hello can u please tell how good is Grass fittings as compared to hettich/blum?

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    1. Grass is fine in terms of quality, am however not sure of their after sales support as I haven't yet had reason to shift out of Hettich & Ebco.

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  59. Hi,

    We are renovating our modular kitchen. Earlier there were 3 boxes but now they have recommended to have one single box instead of 3since the wood can hold the granite weight. PLease suggest

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    1. Yes, that should be fine...however you will loose the flexibility (modularity) of removing individual units later. Hence it is not recommended for wet areas of the Kitchen

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  60. Hi,
    I am planning to have Kaff chimney of 100m3/hr. Will it serve my purpose if the pipe length is 18ft and has 2 bends? I am a non-vegeterian!

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    1. I assume you meant 1000 m3/hr and not 100 m3. 18 feet is a fairly long exhaust distance hence if you don't have a budget constraint it will be better to use a chimney upwards of 1200 m3.

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  61. Hi madaml
    Is ebco a good brand for ss kitchen accessories? How to ensure its grade as 304 or other? Is there any symbol for representing it? Make a comparison btwn sleek and ebco...

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    1. Ebco is fine for SS accessories, however there are cheaper offerings from local vendors with equivalent quality in the market & you may want to explore.
      Unfortunately there is no "Hallmark" for steel :)

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  62. Hi Nandita,

    What's your opinion on Stainless steel kitchens? How much do they cost for 10*6 kitchen? Is it a better alternative to wood based kitchens in lieu of cockroaches.

    Thanks

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    1. I have had a SS kitchen in one of my projects but was not really happy with the fit & finish. Some folks however prefer it over wood due to the deemed durability of steel. Personally I am not a big fan and prefer wood.
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