Sunday, August 15, 2010

Costing your Woodwork - Do It Yourself Tips

"So how much will it cost"??? -- Usually the first question that I get from prospects. While for exact costs you would need the detailed design & probably some professional help, doing a broad estimation is no rocket science & one can do this on her/ his own since woodwork consists of broadly 4-5 elements.

1. The Carcass: The box in other words
2. The Shutter: Called the "Palla" by our carpenter brethren
3. The Hardware: Self explanatory
4. Accessories: All the steel stuff that you will put inside the wardrobe/ box (Tie hangers etc.for wardrobe &  Bottle Pullout, Drip Tray Etc. for kitchen)
5. Labour

Now that we have the elements here are the broad costs of each. Keep in mind that what I am mentioning here are thumbrule values and market rates

1. Carcass (Factory Made White Colour): Costs anywhere between INR 350 psft (frontage*) for Particle Board (ok for Wardrobes but not recommended for Kitchen) to INR 800 (frontage*) for hi quality Marine Ply (recommended  for Kitchens). If you want to bring down this cost you can go for handmade carcass which should cost approx 25 - 30% less.

2. Shutters (Machine Made) : Cost from INR 175 for Laminate Marine Ply Shutters to INR 450 for Membrane MDF Shutters

Tip: The above means that the total "Wood" Component would cost from INR 525 psft to INR 1250 psft. Safe to broadly assume around 1000 in your thumb-rule calculations. Assume the same rate for Kitchen as well as Wardrobe

3. Hardware: 
Kitchens: If you are going in for a number of drawers then assume approx 3500 per drawer (Hettich or 304 Grade Steel baskets). To cut costs (e.g. if you are planning to rent the house) you can minimize on the number of drawers, however with this the utility of the kitchen would go down.
Apart from the drawer cost, it is safe to assume INR 15000 for the rest of  the hardware (hinges, channels etc. etc.)
Handles: These seem inconsequential but cost a bomb if you go in for the exquisite ones available in the market. For Kitchens factor approx 5000 - 8000 for Handles alone

Wardrobe: Don't need much hardware. Usually the cost can be managed under INR 5000 for a normal wardrobe & INR 12000 for a Sliding Wardrobe

4. Accessories: 
There is a lot of variety here. For e.g a Magic Corner can cost from anywhere between INR 15000 to INR 90000. Hence don't take a guess here, go to a hardware & accessory shop and check out the rates of what you need.

5. Labour
For a Factory made Carcass & Shutters the "assembly" cost can be assumed at INR 80 psft. For Hand Made Carcass & Factory Made Shutters assume approx 150 - 180 psft


For those of you who have ended up more confused than before after reading the above, here is the "thumbrule" calculation

For a Wardrobe of Height 7 Feet X Width 3 feet= 21 sqft

Cost of Carcass & Shutter = INR 1000 X 21 = 21000
Cost of Hardware (Non Sliding) = INR 5000
Labour Cost = INR 80 X 21 sqft = INR 1680

Bingo !!!  Broad Estimate = INR 27680

I will not do a sample for the Kitchen and would rather let you do it on your own and come back to me with your questions when stuck...heh heh ..After all I want to make this interactive..

Happy Estimating

NM

PS1: A simpler thumb-rule for estimating overall interior costs is available at http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2013/11/home-interiors-thumbrules-for-costing.html

PS2: Since the day this article was written and now in 2016 the rates have gone up by 20 - 30% - you may please factor that in your calculations.

PS2: For the Critic in you...who would say that (1) I am oversimplifying (2) That my estimates are not correct and you can get it "cheaper" in the market (3) Too many things have been left un- answered & not considered, I would only want to say that my effort is only to set you thinking on how YOU can "go about" estimating to help set up a budget for your interiors. 

194 comments:

  1. Thanks a lot...this is quite helpful

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  2. Nandita, I really appreciate for your valuable time spent in posting this. The overall idea and the research done by you is fabulous. You have saved atleast a day of my time, which I would have spent in gathering these information.

    Please keep us all updated.

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  3. Excellent.
    If you have already written up something for the kitched estimates, do pass it on. Just trying my luck to save time ;)

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  4. Pradyumna,

    Heh heh...that's homework for you

    NM

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  5. Hi Nandita

    Could you share from where we can get handmade carcass in bangalore, i spoke to few carpentars they dont seem to be interested in making only carcass part.

    Regards

    Priyanka

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  6. Priyanka...The carpenter is your only option for a handmade carcass...else go in for a completely factory made kitchen.
    Rgds
    NM

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  7. Thanks a lot for the providing the valuable information Nandita

    I thought if we can reduce the cost by using the handmade carcass as mentioned in your post.

    Regards

    Priyanka

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  8. Nandita, Very Nice article. Just wanted to know how does carpenter calculate charges of their workmanship. I am bit confused in this. Do they just take front area of wardrobe i.e. (hight x width) and multiply by their per sqrFt rate?? Do they also take depth of the wardrobe (wardrobe side area which is open i.e. not wallside) to calculate their labor charges?

    For example, lets assume x, y and z are the width, height and depth of the wardrobe and rate per sqrFt is R. Then normal calculation would be
    x*y*R.
    OR it would be
    x*y*R (Front area) + z*y*R (Side area open to air)

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  9. Front area only...some smart ones will tell you that they add the side area as well :)

    Rgds
    NM

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  10. Hi Nandita, could you give some contacts/vendors whom we can engage for machine made shutters - for both marine ply + laminate/MDF+membrane options. I enquired about Indoline but rates there seem to be very high - 400-800 psf for shutters only.

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  11. Manoj: Check with the corner "Modular Kitchen" shop closest to you....they will have a local person and will be able to source it for you.

    NM

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  12. Hi Nandita,
    Could you please suggest who can make an aluminium framed windows like the ones we see in your pictures. Our carpenter says he can do it on site but I seriously doubt it. Can the machine shops who work with Al profiles, sliding shutters etc do this ?

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  13. Mukesh: Don't do it onsite. Most shops who sell the Aluminium profiles (frames) would be able to do it for you (It has to be machine cut)

    Nandita

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    1. Hi Nandita,

      We are looking for modular kitech done for our new house. My basic question was should be get it done from a carpenter or choose some "modular kitchen" shop line sleek, etc. If modular kitechn shop which one do you recommend which is not too costly also.

      Please suggest.

      Would appreciate your reply

      -Parul

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    2. Parul,
      Carpenters usually cannot/ do not do modular kitchens. You may want to read this http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/06/so-what-is-modular-kitchen-and-some.html
      The decision to go in for a carpenter or a factory made modular kitchen is entirely dependent on the finish you want and what budgets you have. Modular kitchens made with decent quality materials should usually be upwards of 2 Lacs

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  14. Informative articles here ! Thanks. Couple of queries on the estimates.
    1) In some of the estimates, I have seen that the rate per sqft charged for the wardrobe and the loft differ by around 200 Rs. ( Say for wardrobe they charge 1000 and for loft 800). Is it because there is less woodwork in the loft ?
    2)Generally, are drawers in the wardrobe charged separately ? or is it supposed to be included in the (x ft * y ft * 1000) calculation. Maybe this question is vague !!!

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    1. Most designers do not do per square foot calculations as costs vary dramatically based on the design and the material used. Most Carpenters however will give you psft rates - loft rates quoted are less for Framed lofts i.e. there is no "box" behind the shutter, the shutter is fixed on a frame only, also lofts do not have shelves & drawers.
      Same applies for wardrobe cost - the more the drawers the higher the cost. Again goes to prove that psft is not the best way to do costing

      Rgds
      NM

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  15. Hi Nandita,

    Can you please let me know how relevant are these rates today? (1-Aug-12)? Is there an increase or decrease in prices that it has been over a year since you have posted this?
    Also can you let me know if you take up interior designing work?

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    1. Some rates have increased while the others have fallen. Overall today's rates will be approx 15 - 20% higher.

      I do take up interior projects, you can reach me at nanditamanwani@gmail.com

      NM

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  16. Hi nandita,

    Very nice and informative blog :) for those new to woodwork .. One question : is it more cost effective to source own wood and get a carpenter to do things or get everything done by one source like interior designer.. What are the pros and cons of each.. Do help :)

    Thanks in advance ..,

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    1. My view may be biased as I am from the same field. ... also it's usually not just about the cost.

      I strongly feel that going with an interior designer especially in a place like Bangalore is a better & a cheaper option especially if you factor in the cost of
      1. Designs
      2. Expertise that the designer brings in
      3. Risk a) against fake material, b) against the workers abandoning you mid way c) any mess up that needs rework
      4. Supply Chain efficiency & the purchasing discounts that the designer brings in
      6. Your effort, time & petrol that you will burn if you were to do it yourself

      That said - if you are someone who knows exactly what you want, have the time & rather prefer to go around the market shopping for your new home & want to be involved in each & every step of home making and need someone only for the execution - then hiring a designer might prove counterproductive as pure execution does not give a big kick to most designers & your project may not draw a lot of enthusiasm from the him/ her, you are therefore better off with a carpenter in such a situation

      Regards
      NM

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  17. Hi Nandita,

    Thanks for a very Informative blog that gets into the details which really helps people like me who are planning to go for such works.

    I have recently got an estimate from a designer, his charges for BWP green ply carcass and MDF shutters is RS 1500/- . Do you think this rate is bit high or OK ??

    Thanks,
    Krishna

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    1. Krishna - It will be unethical for me to comment on someone else's costing, especially without knowing what assumptions have been made.

      Rgds
      NM

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  18. Hi Nandita, very informative article.. Thanks,
    Question: "For a Factory made Carcass & Shutters the "assembly" cost can be assumed at INR 80 psft. For Hand Made Carcass & Factory Made Shutters assume approx 150 - 180 psft"
    So you are saying factory product here will be cheaper cuz HandMade would include labour cost ? - did I understand this right ?
    Thanks,

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    1. Remember this is just the labour component. Factory made "material" cost is usually higher than the landed cost of hand made stuff. That said - factory made has its own limitations as you cannot execute all kinds of designs.

      Regards
      NM

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  19. Hi Nanditha,

    Really appreciate your efforts in replying to the questions.
    I am planning to do wood work for our home in whitefield on a budget.
    Have got carpenter (labour )quotes ranging from 150/185 per sft and upwards.I am a new bee dont know anything about carpenter work.I have seen his work and he does a decent job..Is it worth going for two side laminated (machine)wardrobe.Please suggest some good wholesale places where I can buy material.Also some good tips to do woodwork on budget at the same time Quality ones.
    I am about to finalise please let me know what things have to asked for before finalising the rate/work
    Looking forward for your reply

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    1. The rates you mention are the correct ongoing rates for basic woodwork
      Machine made woodwork will be more expensive than hand made
      Material prices are more or less the same everywhere - check out 2-3 shops closest to your site and buy from there - you will save on transportation costs

      Please go through the Comments on the different posts on this blog - it will equip you enough on the right questions to ask :)

      All the best

      NM

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    2. Appreciate your prompt response.As suggested will go through the posts..
      Also could u please suggest some good shops to buy material in Whitefield .
      what are the basic material required and how much does standard material costs per sft?
      Thanks again

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  20. Hello Nandita,

    My carpenter is suggesting to go for Pine wood for the wardrobes.He also mentions that, Pine wood is the best for wardrobes as it can never get attacked by termites.I have seen his work and the quality and the finishing looks good.I just want to know ,what specifications or details should i ask about the wood to him so that i can trust on the quality.
    I have gone through your blog regarding wood specification http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/ ,but there is no mentioning about pine wood. Any further info on the same would be of great help.

    Thanks a lot in advance.

    Koustubh

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    1. I don't recommend using Pinewood for interiors. A lot of folks use it because it is cheap, however it has low resistance to warping and the quality in general is not appropriate for interior applications like kitchens, wardrobes etc. except for Wall Paneling

      NM

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  21. Hi Nandita,
    Very informative blog.I'm greeting wOodwork done from a carpenter ,but would like edge banding and limitation done using a machine,but carpenter says it is not possible . Is it possible to get machine services for these for my own material?

    Kashyap

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    1. The factory folks may not take up one off jobs. Edge bands are nowadays available in hardware shops and can be manually pasted by the carpenter - provided he knows how to do it and wants to (a number of carpenters don't)

      NM

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  22. Hi Nandita, You have done a great job! Thanks!!!
    I have a query related to curved class doors which can be used in the corner racks. My carpenter says it is not possible to get the curved class door as these will be available only in china made or ready made furniture's. Is it true? Can you please guide me and suggest some best option for curved doors?

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    1. Your local/ any good glass store will be able to provide these - you will however need to give them the exact curvature & dimensions

      NM

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  23. Hi,

    It was pleasant surprise to find this website, many of my doubts and confusions got cleared after reding this. It is like wiki podia to me. :)

    Since I understood the basics it is time for me to decide which type of kitchen I choose my flat, I need your suggestion or feedback regarding my choice
    Carcass : want to try fibre cabinets,
    Shutters : ply with acrylic finish, impressed with look and finish and options.

    Thanks in advance....Sridhar

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    1. I believe by Fibre Cabinets you mean MDF Cabinets. I would not recommend MDF for cabinets.
      Shutters are ok in Ply.

      You may also want to go through
      http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2012/08/types-of-wood-wood-specifications-for.html

      and

      http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      NM

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  24. Hi Nandita,

    My carpenter suggests hardwood with veneer ( melamine polish ) for wardrobes. What is the durability of this kind of wood work for wardrobes. Would it be better to go for laminate for wardrobes instead of veneer.

    Please advice.

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    1. Veneer & Laminate are only the top coatings on the plywood/ board. Either one is OK for wardrobe shutters

      Rgds
      NM

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  25. Nandita,

    Am so glad I came across this site. I am one of those lost souls in the field of carpentry with a tight budget. Your posts have made me reach some decision, except for the bidding on the wardrobes/ kitchen cabinet edges. There are wooden biddings that need polishing and then some kind of PVC biddings that are much pleasant, but apparantely don't have a long shelf life. Could you provide little insight on these please.

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    1. This is already answered in the Q&A under the post http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      Please go through

      Rgds
      NM

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  26. Hi NM

    i would like to know the current psft rate for bwr grade plywood. i am not asking about the raw plywood rate but what the makers will charge for making the wardrob/kitchen cabinets.

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    1. The thumb-rules are already in the post above. Exact costing can only be done based on specific designs else you run the risk of cost over runs.
      Some other readers have shared price quotes they got from vendors in their comments on different posts on this blog, you may want to browse through

      NM

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  27. Hi Nandita,
    My builder has given options of two interior vendors. Have taken the quote from both. One quote with Century ply costs 1300/- per sft and other quote with kit ply costs 700/- per sft with almost the same specs[19mm ply, with inetrnal lamination, hettich]. The calculation which you have shown costs around 1300/- per sft. Now, I am confused, the one with 700/- sft, is he providing the original ply. Both the vendors have shown their previous work, which is recently completed, and they look good. Please guide me on this.
    Thanks,
    Phani

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    1. I personally do not believe in per sqft costing as it is never accurate and constrains the designs. It is fine for low to mid end work & standardized interiors but does not suffice for tailor-made mid to hi end designs.

      That said 700 psft does seem unrealistically low for execution in BWR ply

      Rgds
      NM

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  28. Hi Nandita,

    Would the rates you indicated in your earlier post be applicable for marine plywood + veneer also?
    Or is it applicable only for plywood + laminate ?

    How much extra would a veneer finish cost, both in terms of material and labor?

    Thanks

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    1. Two things
      1. Wood & material cost in Bangalore has gone up some 20 - 30% since I wrote the above post - unfortunate but true :(

      2. The post assumes the material as BWR Ply & Laminate. Veneer costs vary based on the design of the veneer however for basic designs can be assumed = laminate. Cost of polishing will need to be added in case of Veneer.

      NM

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    2. Hi Nandita,
      Can you update this page with current costs?
      A lot of people go through these pages to make sense of what should be done and how the meet our specs within the budget and it will be really helpful to all of us.

      Thanks.

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    3. I will in the long run, for now you can assume current costs to be approx 25% higher

      Rgds
      NM

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  29. hello Nandita,
    Do you undertake Modular Kitchen work? I am planning for my Kitchen hence checking. How can I contact you to discuss further.

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    1. I do take up Modular Kitchens. You can reach me at nanditamanwani@gmail.com

      NM

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  30. helo mam
    how much budget i may have to arrange to get my 3bhk hose done in bangalore.
    not very lavish not very economical is the criteria..

    regards
    venky

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    1. The technique for how to cost your woodwork is already in the post above. If you need a very broad thumb-rule then regular Woodwork + Lighting & Painting should broadly cost 500 to 600 times the super built up square foot area of your flat.

      NM

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  31. Thought I'll share some tips and tricks I learnt while finishing up my flat. Just a few minor ones, will post more if you are interested.
    If you are not going for the slow-motion hinges, doesn't matter - Check out the Damper (Dampener) from Hettich. It costs about 200 Rs per each and works like a charm. You can even fix it yourself, remove it from one place and put into another without disturbing the actual hinge. It's a real good invention and I'm totally in love with it.
    Also, for those cupboards that don't have it, I reduced the sound it makes when it shuts by pasting a small piece of rubber (cut from an eraser). At least it doesn't make the thud noise after this.
    Nice to see this forum once in a while. I designed it myself, employed 2 carpenters and got it done in 3 months. I used some tips here earlier as well. Thank you Nandita for keeping this alive.

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  32. hello Nandita

    My designer is using

    SPECIFICATIONS
    Kitchen & Bathroom cabinets: Waterproof & termite resistant ISO certified plywood.
    Brand- Kitply
    Kitchen & wardrobe accessories: Stainless steel.
    Brand- Evershine
    Kitchen shutters: Carpentry/Modular.
    Modular brand- Elenza
    Wardrobes & other cabinets: Termite resistant ISO certified commercial plywood.
    Brand- Kitply.
    The Sqft rates will change if in case any other brand other than mentioned above is used.
    Main frame: 19mm plywood
    Backing for all boxing structures: 6mm plywood.
    Shutters: 19mm block board.
    19mm waterproof block board for kitchen carpentry & bathroom cabinet shutters.
    Drawers: 12mm plywood.
    Hinges: Ebco Brand.
    Telescopic channels: Ebco Brand.
    Mirrors: 5mm thick
    Brands- Modiguard/Saint-Gobain
    Nuts & screws: GKW brand
    Adhesive: Fevicol SH
    Locks: Godrej/Ebco
    Laminate: External 1mm thickness, Internal Internal 0.8mm thickness
    Brand: Merino
    Note: If designer range laminates are used charges will be at actuals.

    can you please comment... or any advice, please?

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    1. While per square foot costing is widely prevalent in the market I strongly believe that costing should be done specific to a particular design OR the design should be created based on a certain overall budget else it leads to budget creep or heartburn later. That said I find nothing out of place in the quote above - just make sure that the wood used confirms to the specifications mentioned in the post below http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2012/08/types-of-wood-wood-specifications-for.html

      Rgds
      NM

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  33. Dear Nandita,

    Iam planning to do my new flat wooden work. specs offered by one of the vendor for wardrobe and kitchen is shown below for your reference. Please go through the specs and prices offered by vendors whether i am on right path or i need to change something from specs and the prices are expensive. need your expert advise.
    WARDROBE
    Internal surfaces will be of MR grade Plywood with inside white laminate.
    Exposed surfaces will be of 18mm thick exterior grade mdf .
    Internal carcasses will be of 18mm thk.
    Back panel will be of 8mm thk.
    Hanger rod & Tube fitting will be of smaples.
    Inside drawer will be having facia in prelaminated mdf.

    KITCHEN UNIT
    All exposed surface will be in mdf with as per the selection.
    All unexposed surfaces will be of prelaminated mdf.
    Unit below the Granite in laminted WBP Ply.
    All iron mongery will be from our standard range.
    Suspension Brackets and plastic legs etc. as required will be provided.




    No Room Furniture TYPE W cm H cm Area Rate/Sft.

    1 Kitchen Kitchen Laminate 872.00 84.00 78.84 1,100.00
    2 Kitchen Loft Laminate 572.00 74.00 45.56 750.00
    3 Master Bedroom Wardrobe Laminate 226.50 213.30 52.00 1,050.00
    5 Bed room 1 Wardrobe Laminate 302.00 76.00 24.71 700.00

    TOTAL
    Additional
    1 Accessories Accessories 1 No 15,000.00
    2 Loose Furniture Pooja unit Veneer zfinish 1 No 27,000.00
    3 Loose Furniture Toilet snd Wash basin box 1 No 13,800.00

    TOTAL

    Grand Total
    Specifications
    Base Material : Plywood with inside white colour lamination ( Century BWP plywood )
    : Kitchen Bottom units would be made of Boiling Water Proof Plywood.
    Shutters : Factory finished (Premium Quality MDF Balanced and edge covered).
    Handles : As per the samples provided.
    Hinges : Imported Auto close. (Hettich )
    Channels : Imported Sliding channel.
    Laminate : Merino, Shades available as per the samples.
    All PVC foils are considered of 300E thk wood grain finish


    Best Regards,

    sunkara

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    1. Prescriptive material recommendations are already available in my post at http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      Also being in the same line of work it is not ethical for me to play judge & comment on someone else's quote

      Regards
      Nandita

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  34. Hi Nandita,
    Kudos for your dedication.Can you please say is this a good specification to goahead.Thanks in advance.

    MODULAR KITCHEN BASE UNIT: Box Type. Carcass Material in 18 mm / 6 mm BWR Plywood both side laminated using 0.8mm ASIS branded Laminate – Off white colour, edges sealed with 0.5mm edgeband. Shutters of Postforming type with laminate as per choice by client of SF finish from Merino or Greenlam. Hinges of Brand EBCO will be used for doors. Adjustable legs of PVC type with removable skirting or
    Fixed skirting in Plywood with matching Laminates will be provided as per client’s Choice..
    MODULAR KITCHEN Wall UNIT: Box Type. Carcass Material in 18 mm / 6 mm Commercial Hardwood Plywood both side laminated using 0.8mm ASIS branded Laminate – Off white colour, edges sealed with 0.5mm edgeband. Shutters of Postforming type with laminate as per choice by client of SF finish from Merino or Greenlam. Hinges of Brand EBCO will be used for doors.
    KITCHEN LOFT UNIT: Frame Type. Frame Material of thickness 100 mm in 18 mm coomercial Hardwood Plywood both side laminated using 0.8mm ASIS branded Laminate – Off white colour, edges sealed with 0.5mm edgeband. Shutters of Postforming type with laminate as per choice by client of SF finish from Merino or Greenlam. Hinges of Brand EBCO will be used for doors.

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    1. Hi Rohini...for material recommendations refer http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

      Rgds
      NM

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  35. Hi Nandita, You are an exceptional guide. Really appreciate your effort. My builder has given the below quote for Kitchen work. Could you kindly examine it and give your opinion on the cost as well as the proposed materials for the job. Thanks

    Kitchen Unit (Rs 138500)
    Includes
    Overhead Unit (2250+2200x318x600mm) having 2 no.s of 450mm wide MDF framed single shutter unit with shelf inside, 1 no. of corner shutter unit with shelf & bifold hinges, 1 no. of 450mm wide single shutter unit with shelf inside, 2 no. of 600mm wide single shutter unit with shelf inside & overhead panel over Chimney & aqua guard.

    Bottom Unit (1700+2800x600x850mm) having 2 no.s of 500mm wide drawer unit for keeping accessory inside, 3 no.s of 600mm wide drawer unit for keeping accessory inside, 1 no. of 500mm wide single shutter unit with shelf inside, 1 no. of 1100mm wide Corner unit for keeping accessory inside, 1 no. of 150mm wide Bottle Pullout unit, 1 no. of 800mm wide below sink unit with accessory inside & 1 no. of 600mm wide single shutter Unit with shelf inside.

    Exposed surfaces in MDF with foil finish. Unexposed surfaces in prelaminated MDF. Unit below the sink in laminated BWP ply. Rate to include PVC skirting and Ducting.

    Accessories for Kitchen Unit (Rs 40850)

    (a) Innotech Drawer with Cutlery Tray, Hettich Make. No.s 1
    (b) Innotech Drawer 70mm high, Hettich Make. No.s 1
    (c) Innotech Drawer 70mm high with add on railing, Hettich Make. No.s 3
    (d) Corner Carousel, Hettich Make No.s 1
    (e) Bottle Pullout, Hettich Make No.s 1
    (f) Sink pullout , Hettich Make No.s 1
    (g) Waste bin, Hettich Make No.s 1
    (h) Anti Slip Matt for drawer, Hettich Make. No.s 1
    (i) Water proof Matt below sink unit, Hettich make. No.s 1
    (j) Chimney - MARS 60 LTW 910 suction No.s 1

    Providing and Fixing Jet Black granite top with edge lamination for Kitchen Unit. set 1
    (Rs 20600)

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    1. I would recommend BWR Ply for all the boxes and not just the unit under the sink, also a branded Hob & Chimney

      NM

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  36. Hi Nandita,
    I am planning to do the interiors(Wardrobes,Kitchen Cabinets etc)for my 3BHK Apartment. Can you please let me know the reasonable current market rate (all inclusive in per sqft ) for following finishes.
    1.laminate
    2.Veneer
    3.Melamine(hdf)
    4.Metallic(hdf)

    Thanks & Regards
    SJ

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    1. PSFT costing is always approximate...you can get this from your carpenter.
      Final costing is best done based on the design otherwise it leads to heartburn later.

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  37. Madam Hi,
    Really good info, Thanks .
    My little query is i want to rent out my Flat for which i would like to go for Interior work what are the approx costs and what wood i have to ask him to go for reg
    1 Kitchen
    2 TV unit
    3 wardrobes

    can i use laminates in all kitchen , wardrobes , TV units Madam
    what wood material should i ask him in Kitchen , wardrobes etc i am confused more now.
    Madam just what is approx cost for laminates and veneer as on today just approx madam.
    Reagrds

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    1. Approx costing is already given in the post above...add around 20% escalation to the rates mentioned due to inflation since the time the post was written.

      For material recommendation please go through http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

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  38. Hi Nandita,

    I have found all your posts really helpful especially being a novice in this area.Its commendable that somebody is really taking so much interest in giving us a walkthrough about this unknown world(which you experience only when you buy a home like us:-)) in layman's language.Would appreciate your inputs for the following querries:-
    Which of the ply is better Century or branded ply for JK?
    Whats the price difference if any?Can we use Century for kitchen/bathroom cabinets and rest all furniture JK?
    Which of the laminates are better-Virgolam/Merinolam/Century Ply/Greenlam?
    How does price difference look between veneer and laminate?(is it close to 200/sqft?)

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    1. Most of your questions are answered in the Q&A under the post at http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

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  39. Hi Nandita,

    Would you vouch for acrylic material for kitchen cabinet doors?

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  40. Hello Nandita

    Can you please tell me if I can use PVC legs/Plinth (usually used as kitchen carcass legs) for my living room wardrobe? My carpenter wants to put plywood base, wouldn't these legs provide equally good support and also help keep the base clean?

    Thanks in advance,
    Swati

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    1. Yes you can use PVC legs under the Wardrobe. However if you leave them open then it may not look too pretty.
      Legs are used in Kitchens to avoid "wet" contact - no such problem in bedrooms hence there is really no "need" to use legs.

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  41. Hi Nandita,
    Please help me to understand
    How interiors measurements are done in Bangalore. for Wardrobe - do we consider only Height and Width or H*W*D. for shutters I know it should be only H*W. what is the difference between running feet and SQFT
    Thanks
    Upendra

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    1. I understand you mean costing to determine payments to carpenters (since most good designers will cost based on the design and not the sqft).
      The above is done based on HXW except, when you have a corner then take the Width along the wall and not the frontage.
      Running feet is simply the length for e.g. in floor tile laying the cost of fixing of the skirting is calculated based on the running feet of the skirting - similar for edge polishing of woodwork etc.

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  42. Dear Nandita Manwani,

    Thank you for all the inputs, going through all your inputs I feel it is more easy to go with you to design my interiors. If you feel that you can work on small house (2BHK) with approximately 1200 sqft in marathahalli area bangalore, Please do get in touch with me, I am jagadish my no 9008242807

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    1. Hi Jagadish - you can reach me at nanditamanwani@gmail.com

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  43. Hello Nandita,
    I am planning to use MDF with laminate as it looks very good. What's your view on this idea.
    Regds,
    Rama

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    1. Please go through http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

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  44. Hi Nandita,
    Thank you for you excellent blog. It's very informative. Can you provide some details about interior designing cost in bangalore.?.What will be the range to get 2D and 3D designs? Is it charged on super built up area or based on wood work area?

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    1. Design costs vary and each designer will have his/ her own way of costing.
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  45. hello nandita, i have been getting work from some carpenters and they tell me i can get the shutters of wardrobe and kitchen done in factory as it seems many exist to do "job work" as they told and it will help save time. Can you let me know some such vendors who do job work in whitefield area-thanks Rajen

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    1. I would not know any such vendors in Whitefield. Also most factories do not entertain retail customers, even if they do it will be very painful for you to manage. Ideally let your carpenter therefore handle in case he has a connect.

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  46. Hii Nandita,I done venire lamination in my office how the calculation will go for doors and counting for running feet lamination for 2 inch,4 inch, and 6inch.please guide me urgently in Mumbai

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    1. Each jobwork vendor will have his own method of costing - ideally this should be discussed before giving out the work

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  47. Hi Nandita,
    Very informative posts. As I have understood from the some of queries and your replies to them, while preparing the cost for the wardrobe, we should only consider the height x width.
    Is it applicable even if one side of the wardrobe has lamination? e.g our wardrobe's right side is the wall and left side has been laminated. So the carpenter is including its area while calculating? Is it correct?
    He is doing the same for the T.V and shoe rack also. i.e instead of only height x width, he is adding both the side areas. Please advice.

    Regards
    Srinivas

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    1. Its usually the frontal area only. Its best to avoid such a discussion and contract on an overall basis based on the design.

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  48. Hi Nandita,

    It is very usefull blog.
    My interior designer is referring me that he is using pine wood. Can you pls suggest whether pine wood will be fine or we need to for plywood?

    Best regards
    Vasu

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    1. Pine Wood is not recommended as it is soft wood. This issue has been discussed earlier as well...please refer the Q&A under http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

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  49. Nandita,

    Very useful blog and loads of information for all us newbies who are new to home interiors.
    I wanted to know how suitable is "veneer" for kitchen shutters? Look and finishing wise nothing beats veneer or solid wood work, hence I am willing to go an extra mile if its worth spending the money. The house is situated in Bangalore (speciying location as many designers suggested veneer is not suitable for bangalore kutchens due to weather conditions).
    Please give your suggestions

    Thanks,
    Ankita

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    1. Veneer is not recommended for Kitchens as the polish wears off in moist and heavy usage kitchen environment. You may however use solid wood shutters.
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  50. Hi Nandita,

    This is a tremendously useful blog series. It's so complete that while reading, the moment I have a question in my mind, you answer that in the next sentence. Thank you!

    I am getting kitchen cabinets done at my apartment. I had made an agreement with the carpenter for 1000/- per sqft for marine ply carcass and marine ply + laminate shutters. Right now, the carcass is all done and I wanna do shutters with membrane mdf. My carpenter is saying that I should get the shutters done myself from an external vendor and he would reduce 100/- per sqft from the original budget for the marine ply+laminate shutter.

    Does ply+laminate really cost only so much per sqft? (You've said 175/- in your blog).

    I'd be glad to hear back.

    Regards,
    Manu

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    1. You can actually do the cost calculation based on the psft rate of the laminate and ply you are using.
      Rates I have mentioned above are for factory made shutters, also, since the date the above post was written the rates have gone up by almost 30%

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  51. This is quite helpful Nandita..Thanks a lot !
    Considering 2015 rates.. BWR for kitchen and MR for wardrobes.. does this estimate look good ?

    Length Width Sq.Ft Total Sq.Ft Rate1
    Kitchen Base 1 11 3 33 109 1400
    Base 1-side 3 3 9 152600
    Base-2 9 3 27
    Wall-1 11 2 22
    Wall-2 9 2 18

    Wardrobe -1 7 6 42 126.75 1100
    loft 2.5 8 20 139425
    Wardrobe -2 7 5.5 38.5
    loft 2.5 10.5 26.25
    Total 292025

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    1. Hi
      Being in the same line of work I refrain from commenting on quotes from others as it is unethical for me to play judge without complete knowledge of the background
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      Thanks for your understanding

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  52. Hi Nandita
    What should be the thickness of the plywood for kitchen and wardrobes? My carpenter is suggesting to use 16 mm bwr for kitchen and 16 mm mr for wardrobes with laminates on both sides.
    There is a plywood retailer who is suggesting to go with 18mm with laminates on both sides.
    What should be the choice here? I have searched the entire web and could find only one article which was in favor of 16 mm plus laminates.
    Is 18or 19 mm rwally an overkill?

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    1. 18 mm finished shutters are needed for the zero crank hinges to work properly with no gap showing etc. - hence the suggestion for 16 mm ply & 1+1 mm laminates is fine

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  53. Hi Nandita,
    Can you provide a rough estimate of carpentary job (per sq feet) if we provide the ply and laminate...

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    1. In Bangalore a good carpenter will charge you between Rs. 250 - 400 per sqft depending on the intricacy of the work.

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  54. Hi Nandita,

    Your blog is very informative and helpful. We want to start interior work in our home. As per our budget we got good carpenter too, but I want to know that before doing carpentry work what all work should be done in new home and in which order? That is false celling, pest control, extra tile work, electrical etc. it will be very helpful if you guide us for before and after carpentry.

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    1. Very good question and something that most folks don't do well leading to a bit of a mess later.
      Specific to your question -
      Electrical - Tilework - False ceiling - Woodwork - Painting - Pest Control. In that order

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  55. Nadita,

    Could you please suggest if I can go with a option specified below (or) there is a better option

    I am looking for something cost-effective and durability with less maintenace

    Daffodil:
    Modular kitchen- Membrane shutters
    wardrobes - Membrane finish, Core Water resistant HDF, Waterproof ply Model, water resistant ply laminated white carcass, Membrane Marine Ply loft/wardrobe shutters (3.2 L)

    Other options which comes

    Tulip: modular kitchen- Post form shutters
    Tulip: Wardrobes- Post form finish, final material made water resistant - Core MDF, water resistant ply laminted white carcass, Post form Marine Ply Loft/wardrobe shutters (Cost 2.9 L)

    Orchid:
    Budget Modular kitchen - Edge form shutters
    Durable wardrobes – HPL edge form, partially water resistant – Core MDF, Edge Form marine Ply Loft/ Wardrobe Shutters (Cost 2.5 L)

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    1. The Kitchen carcass HAS TO be in BWR ply if you want it to last. Moisture resistant or "made" moisture resistant through post forming will not do. For wardrobes MDF is fine.

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  56. Hello Nandita,
    I want to know pros and cons of hand made carcass / shutters Vs machine made. Can you pls explain? I heard machine made has low life and hence my question.
    Thx, Hari

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    1. If you use the same material - i.e. BWR Ply + Laminate - then machine made carcass will definitely be better in both quality and finish as the laminate and the edge banding will be machine pressed.
      Sometimes vendors make the machine made carcass in MDF as that is cheaper - in that case the quality and life is lower

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  57. This is very useful information Nandita. Can you please update the 2015 rates.

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    1. You may broadly assume a 40% increase in rates overall.

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  58. Hi ,I just want know weather kohinoor ply is good or not for kitchen work and what would be expected persquare feet cost for kitchen work

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    1. Any plywood that is IS 303 BWR grade in a price range of approx Rs 100/- psft (for 19mm) should be fine.
      I would not know the psft rates for the Kitchen work as I do not price based on psft as it leads to scope management issues.

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  59. Can you please suggest me where i can get factory made plywood or mdf carcasses,. or suggest any brand manufacturers for the same.

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    1. Try your nearest modular kitchen vendor. For plywood you may not have much control on the brands used by the vendor hence best to check the specific brand that the vendor uses. For MDF you may insist on Action Tesa.

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  60. Hello Nandita,
    Please suggest.. approx current carpenter labor cost per square feet in Whitefield, Bangalore

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    1. It should be in the range of Rs 220 psft plus/ minus 10%

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  61. Hi Nandita,
    Really nice article to know the depth and breadth of wood work.
    I am planning for my house interiors. My builder told me that he will use kitply BWR range for kitchen, kitply commercial ply for wardrobes, EBCO made materials and he is quoting 1350/sqft for kitchen and 1250/sqft for wardrobes work. are these rates are fine?

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    1. I cannot comment on the rates as being in the same line of work that would be unethical. The materials planned however look fine

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  62. HI nandita,

    My contractor had given me a rate of 392/ sqft for veneer fixing on wardrobe shutter's. While this rate might be right or wrong, he is now saying that he would charge the same rate on running foot basis wherever the panel width is less than a foot. Is this the correct way of calculating?
    Thanks

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    1. Yes the ask is right and carpenters do their costing that way. Whether it is fair & logical to do it that way is a question mark.

      You may be able to negotiate a better running foot rate however per square foot costing is always painful and runs into issues and heartburn at both ends. I therefore advise getting lump sum rates for the entire work.

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  63. Hello Nandita, Initially I was planning to do carpentary works through interiors, but after seeing ur blog, i am interested to take up the wood work by myself and just pay the labour cost. When i enquired with a carpenter, he said, he will be using century ply wood and the rate is 1100/sq ft . If im providing the materials, then the labour cost would be 300 rs/sqt. What do you think?

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    1. If you have the time, inclination as well as a flair for design then you may as well go with just a labour contract.

      Please also read http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2013/02/do-you-need-interior-designer.html

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    2. Hi, I need help with costing of converting a double bed into 2 single beds. There are already 2 inbuilt boxes, so essentially its cutting the back and front frames and putting "palla" on wither sides of the single beds. What would be the cost of doing this and polishing the entire unit?

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    3. I will be unable to comment on specific costing. You may please check with a local carpenter/ painter

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  64. Hi Nandita,

    Thanks a lot for this Blog.
    Just wanted to know, How do i be assured that my (newly approved) interior agency is going to use what they are quoting me. I am very much interested in get my new home fully interior-ed. But this hesitation is there regarding the quality. They have offered me all the warranty and all.

    Please suggest how do I overcome this issue.

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    1. In the interiors business and for that matter in most businesses there are numerous ways that an unscrupulous agency can take its customers for a ride. You will never be able to plug all the avenues available. Hence it is best to go with someone who you feel you can trust. perhaps someone who comes with a reference and then actually trust that person to do a proper job while you sit back and enjoy the home making experience

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  65. Thanks so much information.

    We are planning to get wardrobes made out of plywood and sunglass. We want the best but do not mind the price. Can u suggest us the best option for wardrobes?
    Thanks very much for taking time to read this.

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    1. I have my own range of Wardrobes (www.thestudiowardrobes.com). You may check out the global brands such as Nolte.

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  66. Great blog with so much of details.

    I am about to begin my home interior and per carpenter and interiors using Marine ply in entire home will be the best option.
    Please advise if marine ply is good for interiors. work

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    1. Yes Marine ply is a good option. Please also refer http://www.homedesignbangalore.com/2010/09/so-what-is-right-material-to-choose-for.html

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  67. We have got the interior done and our carpenter seems to cheat us as we being new bee in this. If the measurement is 26 inches ie near 2.25, he is charging for 2.5 inches. in case measurement is 32 inches, he is charging for 36 inches(3ft). And he says this is the way it is to be calculated. is this right. Is this the right practice to measure around Bangalore. Please reply ASAP.

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    1. The carpenter is calculating based on the regular practice here in Bangalore. Typically the linear measurement is rounded off to the next half foot.

      That said your's is a classic case that showcases why I strongly do NOT recommend per square foot pricing as it almost always leads to heartburn at both ends.

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  68. Hi Nandita,
    Nice blog. I have been reading all the tips and great information. I wanted to ask one question. Can you please tell me what is the market rate for carpenters nowadays. I want to do interiors for my house and if i provide the materials what will a carpenter charge per sqft. I know and i have read that you do not believe in sqft rate but just an estimate. And is the rate for wardrobes different than the rate for as well as loft , kitchen, under the stairs, Study room, TV unit and under the vanity top for bathrooms. Can you please let me know if it's different by how much (for just a rough estimate) like if wardrobe is Rs 250/- per sqft then what is the rate for Loft (having a frame only), and rate of kitchen.
    Thank you so much in advance.

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    1. Different Carpenters charge different rates, in addition some things are costed per sqft frontage while some include the area of the side. Rates are different for one side Laminate/ veneer, both side laminate & without laminate, with box or on frame, tandem box type drawers & drawers with baskets, with beading & withoug beading... I could go on.
      The more you get into it the more confused you are likely to be hence the recommendation to ask your vendor/designer/ carpenter for a fixed rate for the entire work.

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  69. Hi! I plan to get wardrobes & kitchen cabinets done in my new apartment.. I got 2 different quotes- for machine finish- claim to use some plywood n was told would cost me 1200/ sqft.. Handfinish carpenter says he uses sharon ply n would cost me 1600/sqft.. Which is more sturdy & durable? Who should i go with handfinish or machine finish?!

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    1. Per sqft costing can get complicated. Please ask for the cost of entire interiors in the same type of material (BWR Ply for the Kitchen & MR Grade Ply for the rest) from both vendors.
      "Some" plywood from the factory is not good enough.


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  70. Hi nandita, i am seeing the last posting by dec'15. hope, it s alive now. pl help me to understand the total likely cost to get reasonably a modular kitchen and two bedroom wardrobes ( rupees in total) in a 1000 sqft 2bhk flat. i have got two different quotes for 2.95 lacs & 2 lacs. My limitation is around rs.1.25 lacs (is it workable in this ?). pl suggest

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    1. Costs vary based on the design and the material used. However I do not believe that you will be able to get acceptable quality in a budget of 1.25 Lac for the Kitchen & Wardrobes
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  71. My interior guy is using ISO certified IS 303 MR Gurjan Plywood for wardrobe and IS 710 BWP/BWR Gurjan plywood for Kitchen.

    Do I really need to go for branded ones like century /Green ply or the ones selected is fine in terms of quality and durability

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    1. If what you have is ISI marked then it is fine to use...no need for going in for branded ones

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  72. Hello Nandita, the blog is really interesting with good level of details. We have made the wardrobes in our 3 bedrooms with 4mm iron mesh, cement and sand with a 18 MM thickness. Is it required to go with green ply club plywood or green ply marine block board as some carpenters are saying that plywood in Bangalore weather will bend a little. The size of shutters will be around 7 feet. Club is the top one in Greenply variety(gurjon wood) and is used in very hot places around Vijayawada extensively. Kindly suggest if there will be reduction in life as we are looking at least 25 years with no major maintenance. We planned to use Greenply club for full kitchen and to unit as it is top of Marine or Gold of Greenply. Thanks Jagannath

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    1. Block board has better resistance to warping hence it is better than ply for shutters. Greenply club is among the best ply/ board that is available and you would not face any issues except you may get bored seeing the same furniture for 25 years :)

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  73. Hi Nandita, Good to see that you are still active on this blog. Thank You.

    I am planning to get my interiors done. I heard from some folks that it is not advisable to get the woodwork done in the monsoons. Is this correct? We would be using the standard materials. Ply, Block board and such.

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    1. There is no issue in doing woodwork during the monsoons. However painting and polishing is a little difficult in humid weather as the it takes longer to dry out (especially the polish). If one does not have a good hand then the polish may develop patches.

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  74. Can you please provide me an approximate cost of wardrobe of 11x8 ft wall and a kitchen of 8x9 ft with ee playwood

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    1. Prices of wardrobes vary between 1100 - 4000 per sqft frontal area based on the material used, hardware, accessories, shelving as well as whether the wardrobe is sliding or hinged.

      Similarly Kitchens would start from Rs 80,000 all the way to 7/8 Lacs. To give you an example - just a Kitchen handle starts from Rs 30/- and goes all the way to Rs 3000/- per handle

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  75. Hi Nandita...Excellent blog and nice to see you still responding to queries. I have decided to go with a carpenter after seeing his work...for my flat which I will be taking possession in a month.He is from a different city and hence I would be hosting him in my unfinished flat while the interior work is being done.I would be providing all the materials. Would like to know the current optimum market rate for labor charges per sq.ft.

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    1. Carpenter (labour) rates in Bangalore vary between Rs 180 - 250 per square foot. They usually charge extra for beading/ edge banding, inside laminating etc.

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  76. Hi nandita,
    Are the hettich/Blum soft closing hinges worth double the price compared to ebco/godrej? Everyone claims life time warranty and operate the same way, at least to begin with!
    Any idea of the load carrying capacity of these hinges? No body is giving specs for hinges unlike railings.
    Asking because planning to have storage behind shutter in kitchen tall unit like a fridge door.
    Keeping aside looks, confused in practical functional value between tandem box, steel racks and regular wooden drawers. These tandem boxes cost a bomb. Is it just style or add value to usage?
    Thanks

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    1. "Worth" is really a relative term and the choice varies from individual to individual. In terms of quality I have found Ebco to be as good as any of the other multi national brands.
      There is no load carrying capacity mentioned as the vendors mostly want to avoid any liability. However any good carpenter will know based on experience how many hinges to use.

      Tandem box based drawers are easier to use and also have a better finish - I would recommend them over regular drawers or SS baskets.

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  77. Hi Nandita!
    i appreciate your efforts u put in writing this blog! wonderful n very insightful for person who have no idea for interiors like me. i have bought a 1350 sq. ft. 3 BHK flat in affordable segment. it is raw n i have to get all the interiors. please suggest me ways as how to create a beautiful space n designer look with small budget like 1-1.5 lakh rupees.

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    1. Ketaki, its impossible to do that in the 300 odd words that this reply window allows :). You may want to refer the videos in the link below, this is of a US based designer and I have found her thoughts practical & useful
      https://www.youtube.com/user/robesondesign

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  78. Hello Nandita ,
    can you please helpme with the name of the shops opposite GR pinnacle in Kanakpura road? I am not ableto find them on google i want to know the prices they offer for green gold or any other marine ply. Thanks in advance

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    1. There was a shop called Rohini Plywood, however it has now moved to JP Nagar 100 feet road opposite to Brewsky. Note that I have received feedback from some readers on this blog that they faced issues with Rohini hence this is not a recommendation.

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  79. Hi Nandita, I am starting a interior work for my house. I have contacted a interior guy and he told me that he will use G-apple ply for wardrobe, i am not sure of this brand. can you please help here if this good cheap ply.

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    1. Any ISI Marked ply MR grade for dry spaces and BWR grade for moist spaces is fine to use. The typical price will range from Rs 60 - 80psft for MR Grade and Rs 90 - 140 psft for BWR Grade. If it is cheaper than this then the quality is circumspect.

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  80. Hi,I am planning for wardrobe in my 2bhk flat in Hyderabad and wanted to give it for rent. All I wish to do in less cost. Apparently builder has already done concrete shelf's in bedrooms so just wanted to cover them with plywood sliders and wanted to do modular kitchen. How would I do all these will less cost? Can I go for Aluminium frames in bedrooms? Please guide. You can reach out at
    -Meher
    Meher.bhoyar@gmail.com
    9885067753

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    1. You may put a wooden frame and shutters to cover the concrete shelves to make the wardrobe.
      For the Modular kitchen I will recommend NOT compromising with the material, hence best to stick to BWR ply. You may minimize on the wall units to save some cost.

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  81. Hi Nadita,

    Thanks for all the valuable informations here.
    Is Greenply BWP 710 grade good for kitchen? Please advice. Also what could be the approx cost per sqr feet? (Including labor and fixing/finishing)

    Thanks again,

    VR Qatar.

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    1. Yes Greenply 710 grade should be fine for the Kitchen. Please check with local vendors for rates

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  82. Amazing dedication and selflessness! Hats off to you. I came across your blog accidentally and am pleasantly surprised (nay, overwhelmed) by the solid, practical advice you are giving to your readers...

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  83. Hi Nandita
    My interior decorator said is using Brand: Kit Ply
    18mm BWP (Boiling Water Proof) Grade 710 Ply for Kitchen Under Slab & Tall Unit.
    18mm MR (Moisture Resistant) for overhead storage in Kitchen and entire Wardrobes.
    18mm Blockboard (Pine Wood) for Shutters (BWP in Kitchen + MR in Overhead Storage & Wardrobes)
    12 mm MR for Drawers in Wardrobes.
    6 mm ply for the back.

    Is it ok mam

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    1. Would recommend the shutters to be in MR grade too, don't recommend Pine Wood. Rest is fine.

      Also please ensure that the material is purchased from a reputed company dealer to avoid spurious supply

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  84. Hello. Really informative spot. Answered all my questions already by reading all comments. I have a additional question. My interior guy recommends Apply ply (IS303) MR for wardrobes and BWP (IS303) for kitchen complete.
    I wanted to know how can I check the quality of the plywood for its authencity to confirm it is truly Is303 stamped. From internet I found this brand makes plywoods in Mangalore but nothing more than that. Any information will be helpful for me.

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    1. BWP is 710 Grade and not 303. Unfortunately thre is no way to check the quality. A carpenter can however make a judgement call by looking into the weight of the ply and how it cuts.

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  85. Nandita,
    I saw some high gloosy finish glass in the sliding wardrobe. if you dont mind can you please let me know from where i can get it same

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    1. Please refer www.thestudiowardrobes.com

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  86. Hi Nandita,

    The information shared by you is really helpful. Considering the different segments you have mentioned; I have few questions:-
    > How much furnishing is required for a 3BHK with 2bathroom apartment considering I will put it on rent
    > The kitchen already has been provided with modular kitchen, So we would be looking at max 3 wall shelf. How much would it cost upto as you have mentioned the costing for drawers
    >Also looking for fitting in Bathroom and the electrics. Can you help me with the details on that as well.

    I have dropped a mail as well with the same queries. Would await for your revert on the same.

    thanks

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    1. If you are planning to give out the apartment on rent the minimum interiors required are the Kitchen, wardrobes, bathroom storage/ mirror, curtain rods and electricals (geysers, fans, light fittings). If you have additional budget then you may include a Foyer and a crockery unit as that may get you higher rent or a tenant who will stay longer.

      Costs vary dramatically based on the brands/ quality you choose hence its best that you scout the market and choose what appeals and agrees with your budget

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  87. Hi Nandita:
    I am building a small 1200 sqft flat in Vijayanagar, Bangalore.
    Would you like to do the Kitchen, Bedroom Wardrobes(1 master and 2 smaller rooms), Living room TV cabinet, Bedroom TV cabinet, one crockery cabinet (with a handwash sink) and 2 Bathroom cabinets (under the sink). How do I get an estimate from you? I would like to use solid wood wherever possible.

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    1. Hi Ananth - I did respond to your email, we can continue the conversation there.

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  88. Hi Nandita,
    Could you please recommend few good Indian modular kitchen brands in Bangalore . Preferably one who have their own manufacturing unit along with design and implementation Team (With same company providing end to end solution will reduce cost ).

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    1. Amarnath, Having my own range of Modular Kitchens it would be unfair for me to recommend or Un-recommend anyone.
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  89. Hi madam..
    Srinivas here , i have done some modular kitchen, wadrobe, satisified with the current cost compared, but i have done some ledges in kitchen, hall, and living room he did not quote for that and did the work as per my design and at final settlement he costed 650rs/feet for running cost for ledges.
    Is that cost appropriate can u pls advise.

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    1. Srinivas,
      As a policy I do not comment on costs charged by vendors as it is unfair on my part to play judge, especially with limited information

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  90. Ananth VijalapuramJanuary 15, 2017 at 3:50 AM

    Hi Nanditaji, this article was written in 2010. Can you please refresh this with the current labour rates in Bangalore? I am hearing the following rates: Rs285/sqft for Sliding Wardrobes, Rs.250/sqft for box lofts/writing table, Rs.150/sqft for TV Unit. Are these reasonable?

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    1. Labour rates are dependent upon both market conditions and how desperate the carpenter is for work. At the same time my learning has been that getting the work done on psft rates kills creativity and almost always leads to heartburn and bickering.
      That said - the rates you have quoted seem pretty competitive

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    2. Hi Ananth,
      with apologies to Nandita for intervention.
      we always concentrate on making charges which would not affect that much. The reasonable price of Hyderabad I would give you.
      There are two types of wood work.
      1) Frame type: Where the racks are made with cement concrete. One has to go for wood framing and fixing of doors.
      2) Box type: Where no cement concrete racks are made. Then everything has to be constructed by wood.

      The price varies for frame is Rs.100/- to 120/- for "Frame"and Rs.170/- to 200/- for "Box'. Yes...reasonable. But...here you have to be very careful. Purchasing of everything has to be your part. If you believe your carpenter, he makes deal with the shopkeeper and arranges his commission where you are going loose more. Most of the carpenters dump the customers in the purchase of wood and hardware. Wastage of Plywood is considered to be 10% in normal wood work and 20% in extraordinary wood work. Wastage of veneer/decolam depends upon the design you go for. And dont forget about the beeding.....go for wood beeding but not MDF beeding which is a cakewalk for the carpenters to cut and nail and a nightmare for the customer after few years.

      Nandita's blog is very very and very useful for every homemaker. Follow it very carefully regarding selection of plywood, decolam/veneer etc. Thanks Madam Nandita.

      And..pour money on independent house...but not much on the flat.

      regards.

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    3. Thank you for the complement on the blog ... :)

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  91. hi nandita,
    how do you calculate labor cost for different furniture,
    i mean if i want make a wardrobe of 10x10 and wall unit of 10x10, will both cost the same labor.

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    1. Different vendors charge differently, it is nowadays best to do lump-sump costing

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  92. Hi Nandita-Hats off to you for showing so much passion and patience to answer queries posted here.
    I want to thank you for all the insights offered. I was able to complete my home interiors on time and within budget since I was well informed.Not to mention the carpenter was good but your blog helped me to validate his material recommendations and rates quoted. Thank you!

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  93. Hi Nandita,
    Can you suggest any good interior designer for new TV unit and pooja shelf work for my flat in sarjapur road bangalore,

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    1. Most good designers may not take on individual units. It may be worthwhile to explore buying the units ready made from the market

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  94. hi mam,
    thanks a lot for ur blog. its very informative n simple n easy to understand.
    can u pls tel me the cost(in percentage)difference for carpenter made kitchen units(with soft close and other accessories)and branded modular kitchen ? because i received a quotation from both the carpenter and branded ones. the difference is nearly 50%(obviously the branded one are expensive)
    now my question is,
    Is the branded ones are really that much worthy ?
    pls tel me Advantages of going for a branded one.

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    1. The branded ones will offer standard quality, good finish and after sales support. Very good carpenters can match this but you don't get too many of those nowadays :)

      Rgds
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  95. HI Nanditha,
    Your blog is very useful. I have a question. My interior guy is suggesting me to use Century Sainik MR grade for wardrobes and BWP grade for Kitchen.But my father-in-law is suggesting to use Gurjan ply.Then interior guy suggested us to use Apple Brand Gurjan Strength ply which is 70-80% gurjan and remaining layers are Euculyptus. Can you please suggest which ply to use.

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    1. Gurjan is a type of wood used to make plywood. It is better to go with a branded ISI marked BWP grade ply - even they will ultimately be using Gurjan in their products.

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      Nandita

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  96. Hi Nandita

    I am trying to find a factory where I can get my woodwork done. I have my own design and material. Hence now looking for someone to execute it. Can you please suggest some factory?

    Thanks
    Shivali

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    1. Unlikely that you will be able to get the work done in a factory with your own material, even if you get some factory to do it they will most likely be extremely difficult to deal with as an end customer as they are used dealing with regular Business customers. If you plan to use your own material it will be best to get a good carpenter to execute the work on site.

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    2. Thanks.. but if I hire a good carpenter won't there still be a difference between factory finish and carpenter finish

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    3. Yes there will be a difference in the finish. That said good carpenters are able to closely match a factory finish.

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  97. Hi, how much would a plywood + laminate combination currently cost in Bangalore?

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    1. Good plywood in Bangalore would be around Rs 120 PSFT and above. Laminates would start at Rs 800/- per sheet and go upto Rs 5000/- per sheet depending on the design. End product rates are dependent on the design and the workmanship.

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  98. Hi Nandita,

    Thank you for posting such a comprehensive blog.

    BWP Plywood. Block Board, Inside Lamination sheet , Outside Lamination sheet for a 7 by 7 wardrobe costing around 75K (includes carpenter charges). Is this worth ?

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    1. For the combination you mentioned that (1500 pfft) is the running rate most carpenters would provide in Bangalore
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